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    November 22, 2013
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hello, everyone, i'm kimberly guifoyle along with bob beckle, air beieric bolling. it's 5:00 and this is "the five." today, we are remembering john f. kennedy. it's a day that marks his death but today we'll remember his life tonight on "the five." but first, another day, another. this one pushing back the enrollment period until after the 2014 midterm elections. according to one journalist, the unraveling of the health care law is causing some liberals to,
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quote, freak out. >> i'm meeting liberals who are freaking out over what's going on because their dream of universal health care may be going down at the same time the president's popularity is going down, the same time people trust in him is going down. >> so where does the president go from here? if he loses his credibility, he's toast. >> he got through some tough times because people liked him and trusted him. as soon as the president loses that competency and credibility with the public, which bush did in 2005 and president obama is now, they're toast. especially in their second term. really no history of a president in their second term having come down this far ever having come back up. >> the dream of obama care going down the toilet faster than the liquid plumber assist. that was for greg. >> so this new news that they decided they're going to delay the second year of the obama care signups, until two weeks
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after the midterm elections, i would say that's probably sleazy cheap politics as you get. >> it's not very subtle. >> they've been saying this isn't about politics. it's about policy. it's about providing health care. but then they pull this and you realize that's all they're doing. they're trying to save some face instead of realizing we made a mistake and we have to start over. >> no surprise this happened. we were predicting it. they weren't ready to go. and now this just seems like more and more a pipe dream. >> i think it spells out several things. when mark halperin says democrats are freaking out, i think if you look at the articles, for example, said he was spending two hours a day on obama care. he's the chief of staff of the white house, in charge of everything. so two hours a day, he's in charge of information flow at the white house. how could it possibly be if he
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had to spend that much time on it that president obama was so surprised that the website doesn't work? >> right. >> the lack of subtlety when compa comes to clearly what they decided. that this is ready for prime time. companies are telling them that we need more time. insurance companies are telling him we can't do the fix you brought up two weeks ago. so every day it's like you pull on that thread and the sweater is sun raunraveling. it's going to leave out so many people in the cold. poor people. can't get the subsidies. the anxiety that these people feel about not being covered but wanting to do the right thing. i think is contributing to the fact that you have -- i'll just cover this and i'll stop talking. the economist magazine. big obama supporter. this is their cover this week. the man who used to walk on water. and this is representative of
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how the media finally is starting to look at the policy bringing down the politics. >> and "time." >> brian, your take? >> disappointed. to me, you lived it, excuse me to live this example, i just watched it. when the occupation iraq was going poorly, the president made a decision to get an iraqi study group together on both sides. that's how bad it was. it took six months. they got a series answers. he ended up firing his generals. and with the surge ends up making military history. he got both sides involved. that's where we're at right now with the obama care. i'm not a health care expert but you don't have to be to see what's going wrong. this plan is not workable. why does he not realize that? why are we worried about poll numbers? this is not working. it's a disaster. why does he not acknowledge it? why are liberals marching into the white house to get a message
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down? why are we having nuclear talks on thursday about 51 votes? this is an emergency. he would defuse a lot of resistance if he would admit this is the point we're at right now. >> yes, bob, answer all that -- >> first of all, for -- let me make a point he ought to go back. there are two presidents who had lower ratings and came way back up. so that's the answer to your -- your point. in this case, you don't believe it works. eric, nobody around this table with the exception of me thinks there's probably some hope for it. obama believes it works. he thinks there's a way. now, you can argue the policy. and if it is impossible, obama's presidency is pretty much over. >> i don't think he really believed it's going to work. bob, i think he desperately hopes it's somehow going to get fixed. if he's a reasonable man, he should have some serious concern about -- >> how do you not have concern?
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>> explain the news today. that they decided to wait until two weeks after the midterms. they literally pushed it back one month. i mean, how stupid do they think the american people are, to say, you know, it was going to be october, end of october, october 30th, and now it's going to be november 15th? >> i can explain it very simply. it makes a politically smart decision. >> is that not just admitting that the democrats are in trouble in 2014? >> how many times do we need to say it? you're making this point over and over again. it's going to unravel. it's not going to work. if you're right, it's not worth spending a lot more time on it. >> what's the month about, bob? what's one month going to do? >> it's going to get it through the election. >> why didn't they say that? >> by the way, i think the american people get up to the booth and say, oh, my god, what
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a -- >> bob, you think they would agree, look at the size of my premiums and my deductible. this hits everybody's kitchen table. >> there are 5 million people who got cancellation notices. i bet you 5 million of them have insurance policies by january 1. >> according to the study, 28% of people in corporate in businesses between 50 and 500 will have their policies canceled by these capompanies. >> if that's right -- >> on the freakout part, democrats freaking out, the dream was based on socialized medicine or singer payer program. then this hybrid thing trying to create a marketplace and increase competition. that is what is falling apart. now they're stuck with a program that is unworkable and politics that will never happen for them. in the meantime, we have all these people that are anxiety about their insurance. their deductibles through the
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roof. and guess what happens in january, you find out all the doctors not included on your plan. >> -- for singer payers saying "we told you so." >> that's "we told you so" as well. >> and then where are we? we're nowhere. >> more uninsured americans. his legacy. >> if i have a choice between what the insurance system was before this act was passed into law and after, i would still take for after. >> you really would? >> -- every year for 50 years in a row, insurance premiums have gone up -- >> can i make another -- >> why do you thinker wanted to change -- >> can i make another prediction, you're going to walk back all these comments at some point. all the stuff, that this is a better system than what we had prior to obama care. one more thought though. you and i talked about this in the hallway earlier today. what's happening is a lot of people are logging on. the 5.5 million who don't have
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insurance right now because they've been cancelled are logging on and realizing they -- >> they do have insurance. they won't have it on january 1. >> they have to replace. they're finding a lot of them are going to qualify for medicaid. a lot of people who were paying for insurance are now -- >> no, they won't -- >> -- substandard plans that they had -- >> -- bless the fact that they got it -- >> but no doctors want it. >> what they want -- what bob is saying is what they really wanted was for everybody to be on some version of medicaid. maybe call it something else. that was the goal. but that was never going to be -- the american people would never accept that because they thought there was a better way. they tried this hybrid way. a partisan approach. i don't see the need for republicans to basically toss them a land line at this point. a lifeline, excuse me. can i mention another thing?
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yesterday, last night politico ran a story about older congressional staffers who are starting to freak out that their premium prices and deductibles are going up by three to four times what they were paying before and now they want changes. >> well, cue the commercials. are you better off than you were four years -- forget about it. this is really an abysmal failure. and people are finding out. i think this is significant. the question is, is somebody going to call the repo man? well, george will, giving voting and ways going on, has an interesting perspective about the gop's past and obama care. >> if in the spring there is a republican president, which there could be, and the republicans hold the house and they have 51 senators they can repeal obama care with 51 votes. i'm not sure the people who have did this today have thought this
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through. >> he's talking about the nuclear option. this could be the outcome -- >> it's flat wrong -- >> well, this is what we're going to discuss right now. so do the democrats think this through? you may disagree as to whether or not it's viable. >> when he talks about the nuclear option, it was solely about executive appointees and judges -- >> however, bob, today at the podium when the white house was asked would you then -- would you not allow this rule to go towards legislation, and they would not rule it out. it's not -- why would anybody believe what the white house has to say? they've flip-flopped on every issue on principle. >> the point is it might not be specifically tailored. >> no, it doesn't apply -- >> bob, we're talking about this. i'm saying what could happen. it's not for sure a bright line rule so that is something you have to look at as a potential outcome. >> i don't think it's even in
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the world of possibilities right now because let's just say george will is right and in 2017 there's a republican, house senate and president, we'd be foolish to apply it or push it through to apply it to legislative matters. one day it's not going to be republicans -- >> turns against you. that's the point. the democrats think that through -- >> for one thing, i just know they wanted to change the temperature. they wanted to change the focus. it's almost over now. but eric, if it was monday, i might have agreed with you, but we've already been in uncharted waters for the past 24 hours. >> that's the point. >> they made the threat a reality without having that last-minute gang of six. they talked about doing it with obama care. >> but court packing is very serious because all these laws are being passed have to go through the courts. they have the first back stop. if you can't get it past the court, then you can't effect change. for a long-term investment with the senate democrats is probably
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good for them politically and terrible for the country. >> there have been 23 circuit court judges filibustered in the history of this country and they were under barack obama. out of 23 in five years. does that say something about what the republicans are trying to do here? >> i don't think they should have tooken it from where they took it now. >> okay, bob, bob, you're cutting in on your jfk segment and i know you don't want to do that. we have to go. when we come back, the world pays tribute to jfk a half a century after his assassination. could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance.
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that was a service honoring president kennedy in dallas today where his life was taken 50 years ago. he was 46 years old. i remember that day like it was yesterday. and how i felt after watching walter cronkite report this. >> from dallas texas, the flash apparently official, president kennedy died at 1:00 p.m. central standard time, 2:00 eastern standard time, some 38 minutes agriculture. vice president lyndon johnson has left the hospital in dallas. but we do not know to where he has proceeded. presumably he will be taken the oath of office shortly and become the 36th president of the united states. >> i remember this, i was a young teenager during this. my dad was heavily involved in the kennedy campaign. i was in providence rhode
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island. it was a heavily catholic city. walked downtown. people were literally stopping their cars in front of churches and walking into services. the only people really talking then were priests and ministers. an entire city -- and it was silent. the whole place. then for three days we sat in front of the television. there were only three networks then. they went 24, wall to wall. some weren't on late and early. but and for three days we watched this unfold and the thing that struck me about it was how well first of all there's so much about it that i remember. obviously oswald being killed. one thing that struck me during all that was the funeral procession more than anything else. when kennedy's casket was taken to arlington national cemetery
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from capitol hill and he went by his wife and son and daughter. his son, don't know if we have a picture of that, john john, saluted his father's casket when it went by. there it is. and carolyn kennedy who's next to her mother is now just recently sworn in as ambassador to japan. amazing how times have changed. i lived through that period. the rest of you were not born. brian, what's your -- what do you think the legacy of kennedy is today and when you were growing up, did you think much about it? >> one of the first things i saw, "time" magazine news of the day, was three days and it just talked about all the different scenes from that day. the other thing that sticks out to me is he was confident. he was rich. he was successful. but he just looked like a guy you wanted to hang out with.
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there was no there. he looks like a guy when you watch him, and i just listened to all these press conferences today, really comfortable in his own skin but also knows he wasn't perfect. as they see how close the election was in which he was victorious and they see how big he was about to win the next election. there was a guy in office that got better along the way. when he made a mistake like the bay of pigs, actually called his dad and said, what do we do? him and bobby on the phone. admit you're wrong? don't worry, you get over there. you'll learn from this. he did. this was the story of a president that got better. and admitted he was human. >> he also had, you know, followed up by the human missile crisis. i remember listening with my mother to the radio when kennedy came on and explained there were nuclear warheads 90 miles away. it was frightening. this was at the height of the cold war. kennedy was famous for his press conferences. there's tapes out about he's
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very funny. >> he had 50 -- >> he had 50, right. what was it about him as a communicator as you look back as a communicator now? >> i think one of the things i'm most impressed by, it's not just what he said, it's how he made people feel. the assassination becomes that much more shocking and hurtful to the people that admired him so much because they made -- he made people feel good about america and feel good about one another. and that is the mark of a really great leader prp pu. pulled people together in tumultuous times. always impressed by jacqueline kennedy. when i was working at the white house, i got to take some tours of the east wing. at such a young age, she had a major impression on art and architecture and historical preservation. all across -- certainly fashion
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of course. just to be so poised and gracious at such a young age. then have to go through all of that tragedy. really impressive. >> when jack kennedy went to france with jackie, jackie spoke french fluently. kennedy came back and said i was the one who accompanied jackie kennedy to france. in comparison with the eisenhower years. eisenhower was 70 years old when he got out of office. here's this young vibrant 43-year-old president. what about jackie? >> really a special human being certainly historical iconic figure. so many people admired her, the way she conducted herself in the face of just horrible tragedy and to be there right when your husband is murdered. you can only imagine. i think there's a lot to learn about the human spirit. she was someone who was inspirational to so many americans. in fact, she continues to do so.
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you didn't have cable news, the 24 hour news cycle. but this was played, all the coverage of it, on network news. we became so close to the family and to the event. it's a shared memory for so many americans. >> let me ask you about this. the kennedy was -- one of his biggest problems when he campaigned, the first roman catholic -- would have been -- was the first roman catholic president. he had to go in fact to texas to tell a group of ministers, protestants, that, in fact, the pope would not run the white house. but it was a serious problem then. and, i mean, religion has played less of a role -- >> absolutely. >> i think we think about it during the following years and all that but back then catholics were a big group but they were not in the key states of the south. >> first catholic president. i watch this stuff. like you said, i think i was 8 months old when it happened so i don't remember any of it.
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you listen to these announcers and you hear the emotion. you go, what would -- i can't imagine how sad america could have been at that -- those moments. the world. jf jfk, rfk. just an awful time. thank god it hasn't happened again. pray to god it will never happen again. how much hate must you have in your body to kill a president? >> for his ideology. >> a lot of us held dallas responsible for that. kennedy went down to dallas to patch up rifts in the democratic party. he was there -- lyndon johnson asked him to go. jackie kennedy never traveled domestically. very rarely. but she decided to go on this trip. it was a remarkable time. >> you don't blame dallas now? >> huh? >> you don't blame dallas today? >> not at all. dallas had a tribute today that was absolutely sensational. coming up, kmart and joe boxer
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delightful or distasteful? >> i have to say my mom brought this to my attention. she said, have you seen this kmart ad about joe boxer? i said, i don't know what you're talking about. she said, maybe it would be a good thing for your show. i don't know if she thought it was delightful or distasteful. >> what do you think? >> might get me into kmart to by something. i know where there's a kmart, down in midtown. i might go. >> ladies first. >> i absolutely love it. i'm just wondering, what if i made an ad like that with bells and, you know, what would they say? >> oh, the visual. >> if it was women. >> they would be -- it would be -- >> if it was women doing that, what would people say? thank you, bob. >> i tell you, i think it's kind of funny. whoever got that through marketing and got that on television, i cannot believe they did that. >> quick thought? >> i think it works.
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it's boxers not briefs. i'm not comfortable in briefs. >> great. >> what? >> everyone wants to know right now, boxers or briefs. i'm boxer. >> we got to move on. >> what about you, bob? >> nothing. >> oh! why did i ask that? >> follow-up question? >> oh, it's so close to me. all right, next up. next up, tv newsers got a headline. and specifically why the so-called black leaders in america have gone silent. >> how about jesse jackson reverend sharpton, why are they silent? >> there's no profit for them. they don't care because they live off of the victimization. as long as you have black communities that see themselves
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as victims, that perpetuates their existence. why don't they say anything in chicago about the black on black crime? because they don't have a point in that. it doesn't elevate them. that's why these guys should be totally irrelevant, not be listened to. >> what do you think, honestly overlooked or cowardly ignored? bob. >> i don't agree with -- that this is their business but i do say this, i've said this before, this is where i will agree with west, that is, why they are not speaking out about this. i don't get. >> quick thought. >> my quick thought is i get worried. i think people are getting an idea, they just go out and try this and do this. my thing is, i don't expect them to. to me, it's clearly not a black or white issue. >> okay, i disagree. where is the justice department on this? if it was reversed the other way around. you'd be seeing the sharptons and jesse jacksons out there -- >> you know what they say the
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reason, they're bored. that's why they're doing it. >> okay, we need to move on. we contacted sharpton and tried to get a hold of jesse jackson. al sharpton said, listen, i'm going to address it. i asked him, can i call him. he said he's too busy. he said there was going to be a violinist who was going to denounce it tonight. i kid you not. the foot locker ad. quite the rage. it features mike tyson, evander holyfield, an ear and dennis rodman. watch. >> i'm sorry, evander. it's your ear. >> hello, mr. rodman, round trip to north korea? >> one way. >> one way? >> so the foot locker ad, what do you think, funny or flop? >> i like it but i like evander holyfield and mike tyson. they're actually really good friends now. they've made up. i liked it.
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>> i didn't like it at all. i watched that fight and it was disgusting. to make it sort of a play for a christmas ad doesn't make any sense. >> we recently learned he was on cocaine during most of his fights. it gives money and glorified behavior. then we talk about why isn't the black community coming out and denouncing that behavior. and then these guys get to do disgusting things, stupid things, like going to north korea, screwing up our diplomacy, and he gets money to do an ad like that. makes me sick. >> could i answer before dana? i had something -- i feel bad saying this. i like it. it shows we advanced. we're past it. bitter enemies. now he's -- >> also, mike tyson's cleaned up his act. he talks about his sobriety. he confessed to everything. >> here's what i think. i think the ad was effective. it did what it was supposed to
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do. created attention. brought eyeballs to foot locker. at the end of the day, that's all they wanted. >> wouldn't they want to bring feet to foot locker? >> got you. >> check this out, what's more annoying than sitting on a plane waiting to take off and someone next to you, let's say his name is bob, won't stop talking on his cell phone. all you want to do is take off. but now the fcc says they may let bob chatter away the whole darn flight. get ready for fights in the lighted aisles, folks, coming up next. [ female announcer ] ladies and gentlemen
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this spoof sums it up. >> hello! no, i'm on the train! >> airplanes have long been cell phone free zones but the fcc is considering lifting its ban on phones in flight. is that a good idea? let's start with commander bob. what do you think? >> i think it's absolutely the worst idea. i can't stand listening to them on the train. then voices are screeching. they talk about stuff that just bothers me. it's just like -- the idea of somebody sitting next to me talking on a cell phone. the only thing i can think to do is take the cell phone and, boom, bust the thing. >> when you hear people on the phone on public transportation like that going back and forth, people call up somebody and they're like, hey, what's up? yeah, it's good. yeah, i'll be home, regular
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time. no, nothing going on here. so there's no need to call. >> they got earphones on so they're talking like this. >> that's what you do. >> thank you. >> you scream one more thing in my ear all the time. >> sometimes in tampa, d.c., all you want to do sometimes is sleep, but there's one guy who just wants to talk the whole -- >> bob. >> bob. >> the reason i talked from tampa on the way back is you were not exactly in the best shape, if you remember. >> you wouldn't stop talking. >> i was try to wake you up. >> i have a picture of you sleeping and bob is still talking. >> the truth behind that whole story is andrea was next to you originally. we changed seats. she's like, i just want to sleep. and then you went and talked anderson cooper's ear off. he was on the plane. >> i was just trying to keep him awake in case -- >> can we get back on topic because if you think government was supposed to be involved in anything, maybe keep the quiet zone on an airplane, isn't that the place where the
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government -- >> we've been over this, you cannot stop technology. we finally managed a way to use telephones on a plane. we have to give people that opportunity. i'm not looking forward to. remember, amtrak has a quiet car. why don't we have a quiet section of the plane. >> how you going to find a quiet section -- >> you put up sound proof areas. the same ones they have in audio boothses. >> i have a theory, this is a play for the airlines to make more money. you know how? because all a sudden you're going to have quiet flights and you're going -- they're going to be x-amount more expensive and you're going to be willing to pay that amount so you don't have to sit next to jackass guy who is smackinake making phone about -- like yelling at his assistant -- >> -- edge of the bathrooms because those bathrooms are only good for two thing, the mile high club and doing cocaine -- >> -- how to use their phone -- >> i think they're -- it is a ploy to make more money. in order to access, you have to
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go through the airline and they're going to charge you to do that. >> oh, my gosh, if i'm on a flight and someone's on their phone, i will lose my -- >> all that cell phone talking and still no free peanuts. >> charge to do that? >> absolutely. >> the worst is gum chewing. i don't want to hear people chewing gum. >> how about people talking into their phone like this. like why can't just put it next to your ear? >> what i should do is i should become a best-selling author by writing about cell phone etiquette. i'm going to work on that over the weekend. >> okay! it's going to be a page turner. >> if jfk were alive today, would he be considered a democrat or a republican? we've got tape of him that just might make you wonder as "the five" continues our tribute to the late president on this day of remembrance, up next.
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welcome back to "the five." on this 50th anniversary of
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jfk's assassination. he was a democrat, or was he? >> it is a paradoxical truth that tax rates are too high today and tax revenues are too low. and the soundest way to raise the revenues in the long run is to cut the rates now. >> incredible, right? i spoke to charles this morning, who's really smart, on "fox & friends," and he says the president would be considered conservative in today's america. >> jfk in his inaugural address, he pledged we will bear any burden in the defense of liberty. he was a very strong anti-communist like truman. and that tradition of the democrats being really tough on the soviets, strong for national defense, withered away after the vietnam war. so he would have been what's called today either republican or conservative on foreign affairs. >> bob, you were just 12 but you studied the presidency.
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what do you think? >> i think the times were at the height of the cold war. let's remember, almost 50% of the country voted against kennedy because they thought he was too liberal. so then he was i think he was. >> he cut taxes. >> i believe the call of the question was today would he be considered a democrat or a republican? >> i think he would be considered a conservative one based on foreign policy being anti-communist, the first to commit u.s. troops to vietnam. established the green berets. i think economically, you knowless a lot of similarity in -- >> peace corps, right? >> yeah. >> eric, what do you think? >> i think he would be a dino, democrat in name only. he lowered tax rates for individual income taxes, also learned something from greg yesterday that he was pro life. i didn't know that. i know a lot of catholics got mad at me because they didn't
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realize he was a pro life catholic. sorry. apologize. and anti-communist. these are all kind of -- >> it means no -- >> it unified the country. >> there's nobody pro communist now. >> look at ted kennedy. how did he come out so liberal? he wouldn't be caught of saying we got to cut taxes. >> ted kennedy? >> yes. >> think about the -- o to me it doesn't matter what party they're from. if they have good policy. ted kennedy, in the bush administration becomes a champion of education reform and works with the president to get that done. i think that good policy trumps politics. >> what about personal responsibility? >> asking that question is like asking what would howard taft have been like? what would he have been like 50 years later? it's apples and oranges. >> speculating. >> we don't want him to get upset. >> he would be a conservative.
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>> just it's very -- >> he wouldn't be a republican. who knows? 50 years from now, barack obama may not seem like a socialist what whatsoever. >> gosh, i hope not. >> can anyone get elected by saying don't ask what you can do for your country. don't ask what you can do -- you know what i'm saying. >> not just what kennedy said. it's how he made people feel. >> right. >> you can get elected by providing people with a good feeling if you can replicate that, yes, you can get elected. >> personal responsibility with what you can do for your country. >> let's remember on the tax thing, he talked about raising revenues which he did. >> meanwhile, eight minutes before the top of the hour, coming up next, one more thing. , was a truly amazing day. without angie's list, i don't know if we could have found all the services we needed for our riley. from contractors and doctors to dog sitters and landscapers. you can find it all on angie's list. join today.
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it's time now for one more thing. we want to start this program off highlighting the tornadoes and the people suffering in the midwest and as many of us get ready to celebrate thanksgiving, let's not forget about the people in the midwest, the massive tornado damage that they have suffered. there are a few places you can make donations to help those in need. in particular, the red cross doing a tremendous amount of work. salvation army and friends for disaster relief. as you give thanks for the many blessings for you and your family, remember those in dire need during this time. >> very good. >> very good. >> okay. tomorrow morning's cashing in
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11:30 a.m. dvr or pull up a chair. it's a good one tomorrow. huge show. we take a part, dismantle, the build will -- they call it the affordable care act. we want to know why it's called the affordable care act when no one can afford the darn thing. we're going to look into it, conservative, libertarian and wall to wall capitalism. cashing in. right. dana? >> i am going to be pulling up a chair with maybe a glass of wine because tomorrow night kimberly guilfoyle is part of fox files and interviewing bethenney frankel, reality tv star, business mogul. i think we have a clip. >> i sat down with beth en i in the signature red room. >> first of all, did you ever think your name would be like this in a daytime talk show along with the likes of oprah and ellen. it's pretty incredible accomplishment. >> it is incredible. i'm not drinking my own kool-aid.
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>> what makes your show different? >> what makes it different is i'm different and i'm complicated like many women. >> all right. you can watch that saturday, tomorrow night. that's 10:00 p.m. and on sunday at 9:00 p.m. in case you missed it. >> you were good in those interviews. >> thank you. we had a good time together. >> it's an interesting interview. i think you're going to like it. >> fascinating. >> complicated. she's a winner. >> women are complicated. back to john kennedy. john kennedy as you all probably know, challenged the united states to put a man on the moon by the end of the decade in the 1960s. that was after the soviet union got in front of the united states in launching a satellite and then the first man in orbit was a soviet. let's go when kennedy announced space program. >> we choose to go to the moon. we choose to go to the moon.
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[ applause ] we choose to go to the moon and dot other things. not because they are easy but because they are hard. >> you know, i think that encapsulates a lot of john kennedy. i mean, the hard things, the big things are tough to do. i think he recognized that and challenged that. >> i think that's his most almost compelling comment, that one points to the other one. not what you can do for your country. what you can do for your country. >> exactly. not -- >> that one i like. >> this is the highlight of my week right now. charles krauthammer made his way into our studio today. he gave us a half hour. he's holding my book and i'm holding his. this is number one in the country. over 60,000 last week. mine is number six. he was kind enough to read it. you can get charles krauthammer or secret 6 whenever you can. pick up both. tanned billow really is one or two every single week. >> yours is so popular, it's
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so -- people need to order it now to get it for christmas. >> yeah! >> everybody ought to buy it. it's a great read. >> fantastic. don't forget to set your dvrs. see you tomorrow. special report is next. another major delay for obama care and it just happens to push back the next round of enrollment past next year's elections. this is special report. good evening, i'm sabrina in for bret baier. even if you believe in coincidence, our top story is a stretch. president obama decided to postpone next year's opening of health care signups ostensibly to give insurers and people more time to study options. the new date is after the -- chief white house correspondent ed henry has